powerup problem

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  1. Sparks

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    I wasn't sure whether to put this in the video catagory. Anyway, upon starting my computer, it doesn't always start, it just sits with a black screen not loading the bios and the monitor claims there's no video signal. It's been like this for less than a week now consistantly. So, I'll reboot and everything is suddenly fine and the bios loads up and windows is good to go. Last week I added a gigabyte wireless card to my PC which I believe might have caused some some problems. I took the card out yesterday and I haven't seen the problem comeback so far.

    I'm really baffled as to why something like this would happen whether it's just the card or if something relating to my motherboard is bad, like the pci slot. The wireless card worked fine and everything. What should my next step be to figuring this out, should I put the wireless card back in? Any tests I can run to see if a component is going bad?

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    MSI K8NGM-V board
    Athlon 64 3000+
    XFX 6600GT
    2 512mb gskillz ram sticks
    Audigy se soundcard
    gigabyte GN-WP01GS wireless card
    Seasonic 330watt psu
    80gig Seagate HD
     
  2. Karanislove

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    First of all check all the cables are fairly connected...Pull out and replug them!
    For wireless card, try using it in a dfferent PCI slot. If there is any other card in there(PCI Slot) then pull it out and insert this wireless card. See how it goes :eek:hah:
     
  3. Sparks

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    yup, I made sure all the cables were plugged in before removing the card. :) My other pci slot is being taken up by my audigy soundcard. You recommend just pulling the soundcard and putting the wireless card in there temporarily or just switching the slots? I thought it might be worth putting the wireless card back in the same slot. I heard that one can discharging all the hardware by turning off the psu and holding the power button down for like 30seconds.
     
  4. Karanislove

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    Yup, its worth a try... Remove the power cable from the back of the Case and then press n hold the power button...
    Yup.
     
  5. Sparks

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    Okay, I've determined that it is not the PCI slot. Took out the audiocard. The problem happens with the wireless card when either slot is used. I tried the 30second discharge and that didn't seem to help. But, at least I know it's probably not my motherboard. I'm just puzzled why a reboot while the power is on seems to let things proceed as normal
     
  6. Karanislove

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    check the tempratures in BIOS...
     
  7. Sparks

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    I don't believe temperature is an issue because it will have this startup problem when I start the computer after 10 hours of being off. But, if you think temp is an issue, what component temps should I check?
     
  8. Karanislove

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    Go to BIOS and you will find all the important temperature details there.... Also open up the case and clean all the dirt if you have inside the pc...
     
  9. Sparks

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    Yea, all temps from cpu and gpu were normal. 35C on processor and 43ish on gpu.
     
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    Something happened odd tonight with it, I'm running it without any wireless card, the PC had been on for a good 5 hours or so idle. I decided I wanted to play a game so I put the cd in the drive and a 3 seconds later it automatically rebooted itself...strange.
     
  11. Karanislove

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    When you play a game on your computer then it requires more electricity and Graphics RAM. So i think either the PSU is not able to provide that much power or there is something wrong with Graphics RAM. Also did u check the temperatures at that time when ur system rebooted??
     
  12. Sparks

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    no, I didn't think of checking it because it took me by surprise. One possibility is there might be some driver issues with the gigabyte card and my motherboard. I was running the wireless card with windows zero configuration and just the Ralink drivers from windows update. I'm going try going to the software and drivers that came on the cd for the while and put up with the utility program to see if that makes a difference.
     
  13. Karanislove

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    :doh:...yup, that could be the reason...
     
  14. Sparks

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    Geez, I don't know...I tried it with the gigabyte software stuff and I thought it helped but but I still encountered the powerup problem. I'm puzzled and tempted to just give up. *sigh* I'll just hit the reboot button every time it does it? It can't hurt anything right? :/
     
  15. congounix

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    no that shouldnt hurt any, but you know, its not the best for the drives and stuff just suddenly to be shutdown, by no notice, thats why any OS today has various shutdown methods.

    anyway, i see a similar problem on my brotherinlaws pc, he just powers down when dead, then reboot. I seem to have concluded that some bad RAM is on the graphics unit card. Though it actually could also be the main memory that holds an issue.

    if you do have oppotunity to do so, you could try another graphic card, similar is best, perhaps your vendor could help you with that. Just to test if problem persists. You could also check your mainboard RAMs for failures, do that using MEMTEST (Memtest86.com - Memory Diagnostic) -goto freedownload/bootable iso. Thats an application that runs various check on your mainboards RAM. Bad RAM can cause a whole range of issues, but they can be a pain to spot.

    anyway just a few methods for your coming...
     
  16. Sparks

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    Meh, it's gotta be interrupt issues. It screams interrupt issue but how do I fix that? lol Really, I have no clue, change stuff in bios?
     

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