is anyone else worried

Discussion in 'The War Zone' started by Swansen, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. Swansen

    Swansen The Ninj

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    yeah, here in the US we have been pretty lucky, fuel didn't cost that much for us, but its now on the rise, and about to be on par with the rest of the world. Prices are obviously going to level off at some point, probably around 6 or so dollars a gallon, but what i am really worried about is the state of the nation. I mean fuel is a finite resource, that of which is about gone, but everything happened to quickly, and there wasn't anything in place to deal with it. America isn't set up to have tiny little cars, and the ability to walk to work or where ever, so like business, its going to die. I live in MI, we have something like the second or so highest average of unemployment, (which translates into us having the second worse of so economy of the nation) so i see the effects of all this at an accelerated rate, and i'm worried. I'm going to school right now and i'll be out in a couple years, but i can't help but worry that by the time i get out of school the state of the nation will be so bad that there won't be a job for me to graduate to... I dunno, i don't know what to think, but i do know that there are alternatives that are proven to work (not ethanol) and i wonder why no one does anything about it..
     
  2. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek

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    There are a lot of things going on right now. Globalists want the US to relinquish its sovereignty, and instead become part of a North American Union with a unified currency just as already exists in Europe. Americans and Canadians certainly don't want this, and I doubt many Mexicans do either. So, the best way to herd people in is by causing an economic crash. At that point, they can coerce people into going along with it by using the promise of economic relief.

    There is actually a very clear precedent for this behavior by exactly the same group. The first time that happened in the US, extensions of the world bank called in all their loans at once, effectively bankrupting almost all independently owned and operated banks in this country. This, coupled with a food shortage caused by the "dust bowl" effect of the 1930s, caused a massive economic crisis called the great depression. At that time, those financial power brokers used the opportunity to institute the Federal Reserve, which is neither federal nor a reserve, but an arm of the world bank which sells us our own currency at a markup with interest. It serves as a leach, suckling at the artery of the US, and effectively holding our economic well being hostage to only a few individuals.

    This time, things are almost identical, except biofuels are being blamed for the food shortages, though the bank runs are almost exactly the same as the first depression. As for the fuel cost increases, I could write an entire essay on the topic, but I will refrain for now. Suffice to say it's most definitely related to the finger pointing at biofuels for food shortages globally. It's also the reason the neo-conservative sect of our administration initiated an illegal war of aggression in Afghanistan and then Iraq, and the same reason they are planning on hitting Iran next (hopefully we can stop these people before it comes to that!) To sum it all up, if I'm right it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. :(
     
  3. thomas234

    thomas234 Big Geek

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    I'm a bit worried about a few things, including the price of fuel. Things such as:

    1) House prices, I'll never be able to get on the property ladder!
    2) University costs! I know a lot of people go to uni, so I'll get by somehow
    3) GCSEs! I have a French oral exam next Wednesday!
    4) Global Warming. Why aren't we doing more about it?
    5) C#. Why does 100000 / 10 equal 0??
    6) Women!
    7) Will I get a decent job in the future?
    8) The recession, will it turn into a depression?
    9) The number of immigrants entering the UK
    10) Computer: why is there an 'Internal Temperature' reading of 100 degrees C?

    Some of these things are minor, but they still worry me!

    I don't understand why you think Amercia needs big cars, small cars can travel long distances aswell. I think the price of biofuels will become too expensive for the average person within a few years, forcing people to reconsider what their car runs on. We can't keep on paying higher prices!
     
  4. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek

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    Both the attempt to wrest control of Iraqi oil fields and the fuel diversification into biofuels are attempts to break free of OPEC's stranglehold on fuel prices. Basically, they can set the cost of crude to whatever they feel like, since they control a vast majority of the oil exporting in the world. Unsurprisingly, there are also close ties to the world bank. At this point, one starts to get a picture of how small the circle of world power has really become.
     
  5. Swansen

    Swansen The Ninj

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    Its just an overall problem, like i was saying, with the way America is built, and maybe i was just a little stressed when i said the "little car" thing, but everything else still stands, our cities aren't structured like European cites, and its a problem. Granted, there will always be those here who need/want a large vehicle and will destroy any small vehicle, as people don't pay attention when they are driving. Again, another problem in America, for whatever reason we need like families of like ninety million, which are hard to fit into a sub-compact. Yeah, Americans are going to have a lot of rude awakenings, i guess good thing out generation is going to be the one dealing with these problems. As far as the conspiracy theory goes, i have no idea, and i understand how credit was created, and the depression, and yes, we are heading towards one, or something like it, but oil cost effect everything, the price of everything, thats the problem. That said, i was reading an article, and apparently, algae or certain types of, are about 50% oil, and we could fuel the nation with a growing field, or i guess more properly a lake the size of Maryland, and thats just one alternative. Yes, why aren't we doing anything against global warming, why, because no one cares, and are ridiculous. I dunno, ten years down the road, even five, the world is going to be a pretty messed up place.
     
  6. yorkkev28

    yorkkev28 HWF Minion

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    Right well i can't solve house prices falling, or the failure of the world's economy but i think the 'french' of all people, have solved our finite oil problem.
     
  7. Pimp

    Pimp Captain of USS Defiant

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    The cost of living is on the rise due to a number of reasons:

    1) Price of petrol has increased, once petrol goes up practically everything else goes with it. Because petrol is linked to everything including food like bread. This is why i think petrol has gone up:

    - Some people are blaming China and India for increase in petrol precises. As China's economy increases the demand for goods and services increase because the Chinese people now have more money in their pockets and therefore are buying more then ever, like cars and other goods which intern means they consume more petrol.

    -India's economy is on the rise too and recently launched it's new affordable car for $1000 and is expected to sell in the millions.

    - The War on Iraq has also increased Petrol price. (no need to go into detail as I'm sure everyone knows about this)

    2) The second reason for why the cost of living has gone up is due to fact that these past few years Farming has been really bad especially in Australia and UK. Due to either no rain in Australia or flooding in UK caused many crops to fail, which intern has increased the cost of food. (other countries in the world have also suffered)

    3) Bio Fuel is a growing industry, especially now that more countries are investing in Bio Fuel due to global warming. This increase in bio fuel means that a lot of farm land that once was used for producing food is now producing crops for bio fuel. We are effectively using the good fertile land to grow crops that were not going to eat, which i think is crazy.

    4) You might of heard on the news about the Credit Crunch. Well it has also had an effect on the global economy and the cost of living. The financial market is global which means if America's and UK's economies go down, then rest of the world goes down with them. (especially if U.S goes)

    If the U.S. Sneezes, world catches a cold. :)
     
  8. Swansen

    Swansen The Ninj

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    ...... holy crap, that is the absolutely coolest thing ever. I hate how non progressive the world is, its so stupid, this isn't even new technology and no one else is developing it. I hate how money drives everything. On a side note, it said there are plans for a gas/air hybrid, which would get about 3,000 miles out of one tank, (from Los Angeles to New York, 2,778) Thats is stupid crazy good. So yeah, i want one, granted, i'd be happy with the 200 miles the all air car gets and just fill it up for like $10 :) ......
     
  9. Anti-Trend

    Anti-Trend Nonconformist Geek

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    You think that's crazy, check this out:
     
  10. Impotence

    Impotence May the source be with u!

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    Because it is not profitable to do so of course! capitalism must have seem like such a good idea at the time too... and biofuels are a really, really, stupid idea and waste of time (there is not enough land on the entire planet to grow enough crops to meet currently fuel demands)
     
  11. Swansen

    Swansen The Ninj

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    Yeah, but really though, being "green" can be profitable, people are just to lazy to do anything, and just don't care...

    Yeah, i don't know, really, hydrogen, not so sure about that as a fuel, that there is the same idea as hydrogen cars, using water as fuel. There is one flaw i see in all that, using water as fuel, that being, precipitation. Like, honestly, right now, i don't think i care, but it would rain every day, with all that water vapor introduced into the atmosphere. It would be like having the oceans boil constantly. On a side note, i didn't realize how much energy there is in hydrogen, thats pretty crazy, also, this is more practical, also, i didn't know hydrogen could be created in the fly, thats super cool, that method gets rid of the whole exploding hydrogen tank thing on cars via an accident.


    On a final note, i'm still interested in the air cars, i'm pretty sure air is the most abundant resource we have.. yep, it is, and were not actually using it, just re-using it, there isn't anything consumed, on a side note, a hybrid hydrogen air car with a 7,000 mile range seems like a good idea to me.
     
  12. Impotence

    Impotence May the source be with u!

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    Yes your business can be green and profitable at the same time, but its not as profitable to be green than not to be without charging more for your product... which means a percentage of your customers will move to a cheaper brand, although you may gain some customers if you make a big deal of it ("were doing what we should have been doing from the start" buy our product)
     
  13. grow14me2

    grow14me2 Goat Trainee

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    What's really bad is that depending on what your major is, you won't have to wait a few years for there to "not be any jobs."
     

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