I am trying to post this knight to a VB forum as an avatar but if I do manage, using tinypic, then it is no longer animated. I checked and the forum is set up for animated avatars. When I 'found' it I only did a copy and paste so did not save the url. Would this be why? Avatars should be 100x100 pixels /29.3 KB I think it is slightly larger than that but if I reduce the size then again it does not remain animated :doh: Glad of any help or advice - thanks Jennie