Just saw this today, Venice core, I didn't know they moved from newcastle, to Winchester, to Venice, (maybe there was a clawhammer in there to, I don't recall). I'm assuming venice is superior but can you guys confirm that, nothing looks differenct in the specs really, voltage is up from 1.4v to 1.5 but I'm sure that doesn't help. Thanks everyone.
Also, is there any point in buying a 3500+ if you can overclock a 3200+ 200Mhz to reach the same speed or are there other differences. As 200Mhz difference seems like a dinky amont to charge over $60 extra for.
The 3500 at stock will most likely beat an overclocked 3200 in benchmarks, I would expect. There are bound to be other limitations in the chip and its speed, otherwise manufacturers wouldn't sell high end chips. But if you can squeeze a little extra juice out of it, then go for it lol. My 3000's @ 2.2Ghz with 1 degree heat increase under pressure. Oh yeah - that venice (this could just be me being an idiot), but it appears has an external 1000Mhz bus. My chip has an integrated one, or so NewEgg's description says. But this is coming from someone with only a small amount of CPU knowledge.
Thanks dude, all I found on it was it was an insanly good overclocker, capable of reaching 3.1GHz and still stable!! Pretty impressive, I wonder how it would stack up with the FX 55 with that high an oc, though it would probably burn out in about a year or so.
Venice is to be the successor to winchester, with around 20% lower power consumption and supports SSE3 I think. It is no surprise its a good overclocker, since the Winchester core was a success in that area too, Venice is Winchester reloaded.
Venice also fixes some issues with the on-die memory controller, which includes the inability of the Winchester core to run with more than two sticks of RAM.
Woh, I didn't even know that, wait a minute doesn't Waffle have a Winchester core 3000+ and 4 sticks of ram?! Hmmm...Well thanks all, when I upgrade I will definately concider something under the Venice core, assuming something better hasn't come out, isn't there supposted to be a SanDiego or something?
Well, he's got a Via K8T800 motherboard, which uses a Northbridge. I'm not sure how that works in conjunction with the CPU's memory controller itself, but it may very well allow for all four sticks to be used fine. Now, if you use an nForce 4 motherboard with a S939 Winchester, that I do know is a problem. It's probably an issue with any chipset that's got a direct link to the CPU...pretty much the nForce 3/4 series of chipsets. The thing is that these are the most widely used Athlon 64 chipsets, so it's not like AMD can pass on fixing it.
Well I'm srewed then...at least I know now so I don't throw a couple hundred in the toilet. Thanks Big B.
San Diego is the codename for AMD's next Athlon64 FX core, while the Venice is the plain vanilla core. After San Diego its the Toledo core for the FX range, which is the dual core version. All of these new chips will be 90nm. Theres an official roadmap for the year here
