Going to try another distro...

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  1. megamaced

    megamaced Geek Geek Geek!

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    I want to see what else is out there.

    I'm thinking of downloading Kubuntu on the strength of Ubuntu. But I would also like to try Fedora Core 5 as well

    To cut it short, Kubuntu or Fedora? Which one is worth my bandwith bills? :)

    I would like to try Mandriva again, but I don't want to pull my hair out tying to get my digital TV card to work :x:
     
  2. pelvis_3

    pelvis_3 HWF Member For Life

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    It'd probably make your life easier if you used Mandriva.
    Since AT has converted us all using his *nix mind powers, you'll find more
    support here.
     
  3. megamaced

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    That may be the case but

    1) DVB cards in Linux is not common. It's extremely difficult to get help on this. If someone can find me an easy guide to set up a Hauppauge Nova-T PCI in Mandriva 2006 I'd be very greatful. I know that support is built into the kernel, so whatever the problem is, it's specific to Mandriva. I didn't need to configure anything is SuSE - it just worked from the go

    2) AT has gone into hibernation. I'm thinking of calling the Missing Persons hotline :p

    3) And i'll probably regret this: I wasn't overly impressed by Mandriva. Sure it's a good distribution, but it didn't shout out 'take me i'm yours'. :confused:
     
  4. Addis

    Addis The King

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    I didn't like SuSE really, at first it seemed good. But there were flaws in Yast2, and wireless network support is abysmal. Plus KDE is configured with very big icons, not my style. I want productivity which Mandriva offers.

    I tried Fedora Core 5, it was crap.
     
  5. megamaced

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    Yes well Fedora uses GNOME by default. Regardless of whether I can install KDE on it or not, I want it to be the default OS. It's obvious that Fedora would have spent more time on GNOME then KDE. SuSE/Novell, Red Hat/Fedora are all going down the GNOME route. BLAH!

    SuSE.. well SuSE is so easy to break, it's unbelieveable. One minute my USB pendrive works, the next it doesn't. The repositories are absolutely awful and the dependencies are.... let's not even go there.
     
  6. Fred

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    You may want to google your card and each of the linux distros to see if anyone has had problems or if anyone has said anything about them working well... that may solve the problem of choosing all by itself. But since I dont have that card or either one of those distro's, I definetly can't say from personal experience.
    AT has only partially gone into hibernation, actually. Well, only his freetime. He has recently started a new job two hours from home, and as of about 12 hours of this post has been moving all his junk to a new place a little closer to the workplace. Anyways, he's been around, but just considerably less cause of his incredibly busy personal life. Oh yeah, and I know you were just joking in the first place, but still :p
    I think that's totally fine. Im actually really hoping that you not only try one other distro, but several. I think it'd be great if we could "officially" support more than one distro from personal experience. Also, even though most of us use Mandriva, linux is still linux and 9 out of 10 times we can use the same commands in BASH to fix the problem. That said, I honestly think you should try both at some period of time... a professor at my college has been suggesting a Fedora to a lot of people lately so maybe it has improved and you may want to give it a shot. Kubuntu is definetly worth trying, but I think you'll see why a lot of people have problems with it (the lack of user/superuser privilages). Well, what I'm saying is that for right now, out of the two of them, I think you should try Kubuntu. See if you like it, and if not, keep looking :) Nothing like good ol' fashioned experience behind you. Anyway, I hope I've cleared things up a bit.
     
  7. megamaced

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    I had spent several hours searching Google for an answer but found nothing. As I said before, whatever the problem is, it's specific to Mandriva

    lol, send him my best wishes if you speak to him

    Well actually there is a way to return to traditional root sudo, which I have done.

    I downloaded SuSE 10.1 last night and wasn't at all impressed. It was very polished, but very bloated. Anyhow, i've wiped it off my computer and installed kubuntu. I'm glad to say that my TV card does work, so thank God for that! :)

    The only things I would criticise Kubuntu for are the lack of centralised Administration tools. Infact there are none other then a few default KDE control panels. And my other criticism is the lack of eye candy/polish. I've gotten used to all the eye candy in SuSE, so it's quite hash looking at a plain Kubuntu desktop. Looks aren't everything of course...

    I'll stick to Kubuntu for the time being, but I don't know whether it'll be my final choice. Ideally I'd like to get Mandriva back, better start searching Yahoo this time around :confused:
     
  8. Addis

    Addis The King

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    At the moment I'm building a custom linux distro from scratch using Linux from scratch book. The CD iso can be downloaded with all the appropriate sources.
     
  9. pelvis_3

    pelvis_3 HWF Member For Life

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  10. megamaced

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    Cool, cheers Pelvis :good:

    If my relationship with the X/K/Ubuntu family turns rocky, Mandriva will be the next distro on my list.

    Addis, you're hardcore! :) Perhaps i'll be using your distribution in future if you include TV card support :p
     
  11. megamaced

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    I'm really digging Kubuntu right now :) I did something earlier that I thought i'd regret: apt-get dist-upgrade. If I were using SuSE or Vector i'm sure my computer would have been broken by now. But not k/ubuntu. Infact it's gotten 10 times better. The eye candy has appeared and it's faster too.
     
  12. Anti-Trend

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    I don't know what the problem is here, as my Hauppage cards always worked out-of-the-box with Mandriva, as is your experience with Suse. I have not tried one recently as I gave that card to a friend. Were you running 2006 community, or PowerPack?

    There is a TV card section in the Mandriva Control Center, did you check out the options there? If you ever choose to try Mandriva again, do that. Also, try
    Code:
    cat /dev/video0 > ~/test.mpg
    and see what you get when you play the file with Mplayer. I don't know if it'll help or not, but it seems other people with the same card as you got it working on old 10.1 after some effort.
    I've just moved about 200 miles away from my last home, and everything is still in boxes. Even if my PCs were unpacked, I won't have broadband for a while yet. I'll try and keep up on things from work during my lunch break.
    Mandriva is just another distro, but it has a good package manager, great repositories, a great community, solid performance, and a desktop-agnostic approach. In other words, Xfce works as well as the primary desktop for Mandriva as KDE or Gnome would. One of the strongest things about Mandriva is that manages to be a powerful, flexible and full-featured distro that manages to appeal to *nix power users without alienating newbies since it also has many powerful graphical tools such as the Mandriva Control Center. Another nice thing about Mandriva is the availability of binary-format multimedia packages from repos like PLF and SoS. That being said, most distros can handle multimedia similarly once properly configured. The only one I can't vouch for is Suse, as I still haven't found many good repos for that distro.

    All the best,
    -AT
     
  13. megamaced

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    Well good luck with the move. Must be tough moving all those HP Vectras :p

    SuSE is a great distribution if you are someone who doesn't like to explore much. Someone who is happy with the default applications and is never likely to compile software. I found out the hard way that SuSE is very easy to break. Sure i'm still a n00b at Linux, but having to reinstall an operating system 5 times in 4 months in outrageous. I will continue to recommend SuSE for beginners as I do think it's a good place to start. However for my own ends, the Ubuntu family has proved its worth. I've had Ubuntu on my second computer for some time, and while SuSE was busy killing itself, Ubuntu was there quietly doing it's job. Now that i've removed SuSE and installed Kubuntu I am happy once again! :)

    I'm removing Vector at the moment and installing Xubuntu on my third computer. So now i've got the whole X/K/Ubuntu family :D
     

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