New MoBo but HDD won't work with it

Discussion in 'CPU, Motherboards and Memory' started by candleman, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. candleman

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    Hi guys, my first post here and i need some help.

    I’ve just installed a replacement MoBo, and I’m having a problem i've not encountered before.

    If I connect the HDD to the PSU the PC won’t boot up. All the fans work but I can’t get into bios and have no display and just short repetitive beeps from the speaker. I also have to power down from the mains plug.

    If I disconnect the HDD from the PSU and reboot no problem the PC fires up as normal, and I can get into BIOS etc as one would expect. Power down from the front switch as per usual. :(

    I know the HDD is working as it was connected as a slave to an old PC a couple of days ago to back up the files in preparation for the new MoBo being fitted. Yes I have reset the jumpers to master.

    Disconnecting the DVD, CD etc and using their connectors to the HDD doesn’t make a difference. I have not added video cards etc as yet so running on just onboard video and sound. I have also tried with a spare PSU, although a 230W example, and still no joy.

    Any ideas anyone. I'm hoping the MoBo's not U/S before i've started.

    MoBo- Foxconn K7S741GXMG-6L

    Socket A

    AMD Athlon XP 2400+

    256 Mb Ram- Hynix

    HDD- Maxtor 6Y120L0 - 120Gb – ATA 133

    PSU -Suntek AM608B1-300-300w ATX
     
  2. donkey42

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    try setting the HDD & CD / DVD on the same IDE channel to C/S (cable select) if the devices are IDE

    BTW: the device on the end of the cable will be master (HDD) & the device connected to the middle of the IDE cable will be the slave (CD / DVD drive)

    Edit: or set the HDD to slave and change the boot priority in the BIOS to boot from IDE 1 or D:

    BTW: 230W is a very low wattage PSU, try a better one, although wattage alone doesn't mean anything, because a decent brand 300W PSU can supply more power than some unbranded or a not very good brand 500W PSU
     
  3. candleman

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    Thanks Donkey42
    I will try your suggestions 2nite when i get home from work. I'll keep you posted.


    candleman
     
  4. candleman

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    Hi donkey42

    Tried everything you suggested and more.

    I cannot get the hard dive to work if the DVD and/or the cd is connected.

    I have swapped PSU,s and nothing much happens which is different.

    This is a brand new MoBo, which i bought to replace an Asus board which had gone down (the spec is almost identical). Looks like i got a duff board unless anyone has any other suggestions.

    candleman
     
  5. donkey42

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    with a new mobo, personally i'd try reseting the BIOS as some unscrupulous vendors resell items that have being returned to them as faulty, & in my experience a BIOS reset resets all the settings changed by someone who didn't actually know what they were changing, so try a BIOS reset

    BTW: if you don't know how to do it yet, just post here and i'll supply instructions
     
  6. candleman

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    Thanks.

    I've never done one before, as I've always heeded the warnings "if it aint broke don't fix it", but it may be worth giving it a go in this case.

    The supplier is O.K. about replacing the MoBo so i do not think he is dodgy, and the box it came in was well sealed to.

    candleman
     
  7. donkey42

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    ok, it's very easy, the first thing you need to do is locate the BIOS battery (it usually looks like a big watch battery, but is about the size of 10p)

    now there are a few ways to reset the BIOS
    • carefully remove the BIOS battery for 10 - 15 seconds then replace the battery by sliding it back into place, the battery usually slides in & out, but do NOT use metal tweezers to help you remove the battery, as you will short out the battery & then you'll have to buy a new battery

      if you don't have a standard BIOS battery it may be soldered to the mobo & may look like a capacitor on it's side with wire coming out of each end
      if your battery is like this there is a small 3 pin jumper set near the battery

    • i think the jumper is on pins 1 & 2 move it to pins 2 & 3 for 10 - 15 seconds then move the jumper back
    • enter the BIOS usually you press <Del> during HDD detection & before POST (but you system may use F1 or another key) and navigate to "Reset to Defaults" with the cursor keys and press <enter> / <return>

    BTW: i think <F5> also resets to default, just look around the screen for a description of the F keys, <F1> = help, <F10> = save & exit <Esc> = don't save and exit

    congrats you've just reset your first BIOS / CMOS

    :good:

    is the HDD detected by the BIOS both with & without your DVD drive attached, both before and after the BIOS reset ?
     
  8. candleman

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    I didn't realise that was all i had to do to reset Bios. I have done this before, so i am just being a plonker not realising what you meant. As a matter of course i change these batteries on the MoBos that i have fitted, including this one so i guess it was reset at that point.

    To date, If all the drives are connected i cant get into bios, i have to disconnect something (either cd & DVd or Hdd)
     
  9. donkey42

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    yes, if it was left out for over 10 seconds

    then i guess it's a power issue, what is the make & model of your PSU & please list the components you have installed

    Edit: BIOS batteries can last upto 10 years, however, changing the BIOS battery once every 5 years (or less if there's a problem) is fine

    Edit: google shows nothing about Suntek AM608B1
     
  10. candleman

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    Hi again back at work. Its the the only PC i can easily access the forums from but it does mean i can only do it in working hours and between phone calls and flying my cad station. The other downside is i have to wait till i get home to try any suggestions out.

    Specs of installed equipment as follows.
    Windows XP Home SP2
    Foxconn K7S741GXMG-6LP
    Phoenix Bios (not certain of version)
    AMD Athlon XP 2400+ 2000MHz
    256Mb Ram PC2100 (Hynix)
    Maxtor 6Y120L0 ATA133 120Gb HDD
    Floppy Drive
    ATAPI CD-RW 52X max
    Sony DVD-Rom DDU1612
    Radeon 9100 series 64Mb Graphics card
    SoftK56 Data Fax Speakerphone CARP modem
    Suntek AMB 608B1-300 – 300W ATX psu
    +12V 16A
    -12V 0.8A
    -5V 0.5A
    +5Vsb 2A
    +5V 30A
    +3.3V 32A

    Does this help. I have not installed any of the peripheral card as yet i am running off on board sound & graphics, keeping it as bare bones as possible.

    Candleman
     
  11. donkey42

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    that is not a very good PSU, especially as you spec is not bad, personally i have an Antec Trio 550W - highly recommended, have you added the rails together to arrive @ those Amp ratings ?, if not then that PSU is worse than i thought cos it onl has a single rail, look @ Bs PSU Sticky about PSUs
     
  12. candleman

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    No I haven’t. I have just copied what was written in the side of the casing.

    From memory I have 5 rails in total , 3 being used for HDD, CD-RW & DVD-ROM. Are you saying that the 12V 16A is split across the 3 connectors, in effect only pulling 5A each.
     
  13. candleman

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    Problem solved. Fitted another PSu, only this time a brand new 350W one out of the box. It's only a cheap one, about £6 so i will replace it with a better one shortly, when money permits. I was intending to upgrade a few bits before the MoBo went down. Everything now working fine, Windows installed O.k. with no dramas.

    Funny how the working PSU's i borrowed wouldn't power up my set up, but seem to be working fine in their host machines.

    Candleman
     

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