BIOS Running with lag? Help please

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tehown3r

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Hello, whenever I go into my BIOS to change some hardware settings, the BIOS seems to lag, when I say lag, I meen doesn't run fast at all, to load the welcome BIOS screen you see it start to fill in all the parts, and the BIOS displays "Please Wait..." When I select other options on the BIOS, it lags to load that page, lags to navigate thru the BIOS. This hasn't happened to the BIOS at all,
I did make some recent changes to the BIOS, one I reset the CMOS
two I added a new Video Card AGP Radeon 9800 SE 128MB, im not sure if the video card would be causing the problem either, after all Windows XP runs smooth and fine, games I play on the system works great. It just appears to be the BIOS that is really slow.
Thanks for the help everyone!

Technical Notes:
Motherboard: ASUS P4P800 SE
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.2Ghz
Video Card: ATI Radeon 9800SE 128 MB
RAM: 1GB
 
I found these
Slow Bios for P4C800-E Deluxe [Archive] - Tech Support Forum
Bios lag after Flashing... [Archive] - techPowerUp! Forums

The problem seems to be related to an overclocked card. I know some of these 9800SEs overclocked well and/or modded to 9800 pros. The problem seems to be related to the video memory timings.

What I would do is make sure your card is not overclocked. Download an overclocking tool which permits you to change the memory timings of your video card. Basically, what you need to do is to revert back to the factory settings. That includes clock/memory speed, timings, etc.

ATI Tray Tools is good ocing tool, it's also a good cp/ccc replacement.
 
Thanks so much, I don't know the history of the video card, since I purchased the card itself off ebay.ca That really makes me angry that they over clocked the video card without telling me, they could have atleast put something in the buying guide that it was overclocked, thanks so much though! I will do what you suggested thanks
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Well at this point we don't know for sure, but ruling this out is the first step imo.

I should probably mention that you shouldn't play with memory timings if you don't know what the settings mean.

The clock/memory speed on the 9800 se can vary a bit, although if it's anything like 337/378 or anything in that range, you should lower both the core and the mem and see if it changes anything. One thing's for sure though is that it only has 4 rendering pipelines, as opposed to 8 for the pro. For Ati Tray Tools, right-click on the icon in your system tray (left of the clock), go to Hardware/System Information, "Active Rendering Pipelines" is what you're looking for. The clock/mem can be seen in the "Overclocking settings" under the same menu.
 
Here is a simple text file it produced of the cards information and memory timings I believe
Code: 
Display adapter               RADEON 9800 SE AGP (0x4148)
Core Name                     R350
SubVendor                     ATI (1002)
SubDevice                     0002
BUS                           1
Device                        0
Function                      0
Base Address 0                E8000008
Base Address 1                0000C001
Base Address 2                FE9F0000
Base Address 3                00000000
                              
Bus Type                      AGP
Current AGP Speed             8x
SMARTGART Installed           Yes
                              
Driver Version                06.8
Release Version               8.282-060802a-035722C-ATI
QuadBuffer Stereo Support     No
Catalyst Registry Path         
System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Video\{93FE2911-3A0B-494F-A23A-E2B92BA52320}\0000 
                              
______________________________
Clock Information             
BIOS VPU                      324.00
Current VPU                   324.00
BIOS MEM                      290.00
Current MEM                   290.25
                              
______________________________
Radeon PCI configuration space
    00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F  
00  02 10 48 41 87 01 B0 02 00 00 00 03 04 FF 80 00 
10  08 00 00 E8 01 C0 00 00 00 00 9F FE 00 00 00 00 
20  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 10 02 00 
30  00 00 9C FE 58 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 01 08 00 
40  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 10 02 00 
50  01 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 02 50 30 00 1B 02 00 FF 
60  12 43 00 1F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
70  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
80  05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
90  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
A0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
B0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
C0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
D0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
E0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
F0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
                              
______________________________
Hardware Information          
Installed memory              128 Mb
Memory Type                   DDR SDRAM
Memory Width                  256 bit
Active Rendering Pipelines    4
                              
______________________________
ASIC details                  
Family                        52
Emulated Revision             2
Gfx Engine ID                 3
                              
______________________________
Radeon Registers              
RADEON_BIOS_0_SCRATCH         00000004
RADEON_BIOS_1_SCRATCH         0100C000
RADEON_X_MPLL_REF_FB_DIV      00302B04
RADEON_XCLK_CNTL              00DF8002
RADEON_MCLK_CNTL              AA021212
GB_TILE_CONFIG                00010011
MC_TIMING_CNTL                1A291922
MC_SDRAM_MODE_REG             30420042
                              
______________________________
Video BIOS Information        
Version                       008.004.008.018
Part Number                   113-A07513-100
Date                          2003/03/18 14:59
Vram Type                     DDR SGRAM / SDRAM
                              
______________________________
Controller Configurations     
Controller 0                   
Active Connections:            
   -Monitor (CRT1) (0) 1024x768x70 
Controller 1                   
Active Connections:            
   No Active Connections       
                              
______________________________
Displays supported by adapter 
0                             (1) Monitor (CRT1)
1                             (2) Second Monitor (CRT2)
2                             (4) Component Video Output
3                             (8) TV
4                             (16) Digital Flat Panel
                              
______________________________
EnumDisplays                  
Display Type 0, Extended Type 1 , Max Resolution 1920x1080 
Display Type 0, Extended Type 2 , Max Resolution 1600x1200 
Display Type 4, Extended Type 0 , Max Resolution 720x480 
Display Type 1, Extended Type 7 , Max Resolution 1024x768 
Display Type 3, Extended Type 1 , Max Resolution 2048x1536

I set everything to default using ATI Tray tool, though im still experiencing a laging BIOS
 
Your BIOS seems to be from a Built By Ati 9800 non pro 128mb with Infineon memory. The clocks are consistant with a 9800 non pro.

Is your card ATI branded or is it from a third-party manufacturer (Sapphire, Abit, etc) ?

We'll need to find out what card you have exactly. You will have to look at the card itself and report back with the part number (p/n) (top of the card and/or sticker) and what kind of memory you have (on the memory chips are written the brand and model number, just write everything down).

After that, we can find the proper BIOS for your card, flash it and test it.
 
Okay, I looked at the card, and this is what I found on the top corner of the video card
Its an ATI Make. Not from a 3rd party company, well atleast from my observations. The GPU Cooling fan has an ATI Logo on it,
The PN Number I found was this
PN: 109-A07500-00
Thanks again!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ps Sorry I couldn't make out the golden numbers on the black Memory chips,
 
The part number indicates that it is not a BBA. This part number is used on 9800 PROs, but also with powercolor 9800SEs. However I wasn't able to find a bios for a powercolor 9800 se with your part number.

If you want to, you can try a bios for a BBA 9800 non pro 128mb w/infineon memory (you should really try and decipher the writing on your memory chips, don't forget to look at the back of the card too). That bios has the same part number as your current bios. It might even be the exact same actually.

techPowerUp! :: ATI Bios Collection
I can't link you directly to it, but it's the first 9800 non pro 128mb in the ATI section.

At this point there isn't much more I can do I'm affraid. Two options are left imo. Either you try different BIOSes which you think might work (at your own risk), based on your BIOS p/n, BIOS version and PCB p/n, or you learn to live with the slow BIOS, considering the card works perfectly in any other situation.

EDIT: Try setting the agp speed to 4x (not slower than 8x but more compatible). <-- Random advice, but worth trying.
 
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