Celeron or Pentimum 4

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Sarmad

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Hi,

I will be updating my PC shortly :good: . Any body please recommend me whether i shall go for a celeron 2.4 Ghz or Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz with 512 cache. Remeber that the Pentium 4 is almost double the price of that of celeron. So if i get the celeron, i can invest the saving in Ram or Graphic Card.
I use the PC mainly for games.

So waiting to see your answer in Celeron or P 4 favor. :rolleyes:
 
One more thing. Which mobo shall i purchase, intel 865 GBF or Intel 865 PERL. Can you please tell me is there any other differnce btw the 2 boards othan than intel extreme Graphic 2. Plz let me know the mobo i shall buy btw the 2 mentioned above. no third mobo pllzz
 
Cpu: Since you want a gaming machine, you've got to grab the p4, there's no doubt about that. It's by far a faster cpu (this is a 2.4C right ?)

Mobo: Again, since it's a gaming machine, take the one with no integrated graphics because they're not good for gaming due to the fact that there's no gpu, so the cpu has to do much more work than if you had an AGP video card.

RAM: don't save on the RAM, grav PC3200 of a decent company. The sweet spot is 512mb but if you're low on cash, I highly recommenced grabbing 256mb of decent stuff instead of 512mb of crappiness because it may cause instability. I like Kingston, others like Samsung, Crucial and Corsair (pricier).
 
if you are worried bought price and performance why not go a completly direction and go with amd then you will be able to get a good cpu and some decent ram
 
While the Celeron used to be a good value chip, it isn't so any longer and you're better off waiting to buy a P4 instead. You'll really hurt your performance if you go with the Celeron these days.
The Intel boards are fine, but you can get Abit's IS7-E for a little cheaper. The newer versions of the IS7-E don't have gigabit NICs onboard, but unless that's something you absolutely have to have, I highly recommend it. If you're going to get a separate video card, there's no reason to buy a board with it integrated anymore, especially for gaming.

Usually, I would recommend AMD, but lately, the chipsets for it have not been all that friendly in regards to memory compatibility.

Here's a good setup:

Abit IS7-E----$ 85
P4 2.4 C------$168 for retail box (incl. heatsink)
2x 256MB Kingston ValueRAM PC3200 --$88 (2x $44)
Sapphire Radeon 9600 ---$95

Again, normally I wouldn't have issue going either AMD or Intel, but with both the KT600 and nForce 2 being picky about RAM, you'd be looking at buying some expensive Corsair XMS DDR, and in the end you're coming off about even with the P4 and without memory issues.
 
Personally, due to cost vs performance concerns, I only build AMD-based systems. Lately I've been using VIA KT600 boards by Abit, and haven't had any memory compatibility problems at all. I use Kingston, Geil, Mushkin and Corsair memory, depending on the needs of the client. If I were you, I'd opt for an Abit KT7 MoBo with a Barton-core 2500+ or better CPU. You'll pay less, and I think you'll be very happy with your gaming performance.

If you don't want AMD for some reason though, definately go with a Pentium 4, *not* a P4-based Celly. The problem with the P4 Celeron is that the P4 has somewhat of a crippled internal memory structure as it is, and the Celly gets by with even less onboard cache. If you want an Intel-based gaming rig, you'll have to pay a bit more and get a bit less.

Disclaimer: If I sound biased against Intel, that's because I am. I am always biased against companies who prefer to use their good name rather than good products to make sales. I don't have anything personal against Intel corperation, and I hold no loyalty towards AMD. But until Intel starts producing better performing products that cost less, I'll continue to recommend AMD.
 
Big B said:
You do mean KV7, right? The KT7 is kinda old...
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Yes, I did. Sorry guys! :sick: The KT7 could only be flashed to support a maximum of an AthlonXP 2100+. I definately wouldn't recommend the old AMD 761-based KT7s...
 
Now that we've thorougly confused the man...here's the list of Abit's Socket A boards

KT7/-RAID--Via KT133
KT7A/-RAID--Via KT133A
KR7A/-RAID--Via KT266A
KX7-333/-R--Via KT333
KD7/-R/-S/-G--Via KT400
KD7A--Via KT400A
KV7--Via KT600
KG7/-RAID/Lite AMD761
NV7-133R---NForce 415 (NF1)+MCP
NF7/-S/ NForce 2

All hail my geekness!
 
Welll frankly guys, you made my decision more difficult by giving me much more option and technical briefs :-). Any way i will buy the P4 although i am a AMD fan but AMD is almost vanished from markets here becoz of the heat up problems. Every 9th of 10th person having AMD is regretting his decision as in the summers here in Pakistan, the AMD based systems shutdown after running just 1-2 hours :-(. so no more AMD options for me.
 
Sarmad said:
Every 9th of 10th person having AMD is regretting his decision as in the summers here in Pakistan, the AMD based systems shutdown after running just 1-2 hours :-(. so no more AMD options for me.
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It's your decision, friend. But you should know that I'm in an area that's as hot as where you are during the summer, although less humid (high desert). I don't have any problems with AMD overheats, and I haven't since the old slot 'A' Athlon days. If you use a Barton core Athlon, they run pretty cool, and anything better than a stock heatsync will more than do the job. :)
 
I live in Quebec and everyone who spent a summer here knows that it's REALLY humid. It's so humid you just can't stand it, you can't sleep, you can't walk, you can't think, you can't do nothing.
It's not the heat per say, but the humidity. It's worse than the 40C and 45C you see in Cuba and those regions even though we rarely hit those temperatures.

But I still have an oced AMD and I have no problems since I cool it well.
 
Ok, i decided to take a chance by taking AMD. I will check the markets for available processors and Mobo's and will let you know people by another thread :-).
 
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