Computer Upgrade

Again cache size means very little on comparable amd cpus. The 3700 is arguably a "better" chip but the difference is so minimal when compared clock for clock it's simply not worth the extra money. Don't worry, I doubt many of us regulars here can afford to buy ram fast enough to allow for the maximum overclock the chip will allow for. On good air cooling it's said to be able to exceed 3Ghz which is crazy but the 3500 can get to 2.8 pretty easily with a bit of a voltage bump and good cooling too. You'd need the fastest ram around though I would think.
My suggestion is still the 3500 as the price is right.

 

yeah I can see what you're saying now Ex, if the performance isnt that much of a gain get the 3500+

 

with my current processor, if i buy a new motherboard for this processor, what would be my maximum overclock for my 3.0ghz pentium 4? (using AC FREEZER 4 COOLING)
3.8ghz?
3.7ghz?
3,6ghz?
3.5ghz?
3.4ghz?
3.3ghz?

 

it depends, the only way you'd find out is to do it.

 

Every chip is different, and its not something we can just guess.

 

and what would a 3.4ghz and a 3.6ghz and a 3.8ghz be compairable to (AMD), 3500+?

 

you can never completely tell, i mean an AMD64 3500+ would smoke a 3.4GHz Pentium, they work in different ways

 

In gaming a 3.4Ghz P4 would be a fair bit slower than a 2.2Ghz 3500+, which makes sense concidering the P-rating. It would probably take at least 700Mhz Overclock on you're P4 to match the 3500. As others have said we can't really say but if you got some nice overclocking ram of some kind you could probably hit 3.5 anyway. Just a reasonable guess.

 

hmm, so i am best off buying a new motherboard and overclocking my pentium 4 to 3.7ghz and getting watercooling right?

as new motherboard and water cooling could coast around only £170

 

you need better ram as well, generic stuff aint good for overclocking...

 

if it is my temp sensors wrong on this motherboard, and if the motherboard is faulty, then if i buy a new motherboard, temperatures should be about 30-40 degrees, then i should be able to overclock to at least 3.7ghz withought water cooling, and then i will be able to buy new ram , you know on the AC FREEZER 4 when the fan is facing down, and on that top of the metal heatsink facing the side of the case, one half has got plastic on becouse its holding the fan on the heatsink, well when i feel that metal part, its very cool to the touch, does that mean i cant be getting temperatures of 50 degrees idle on the cpu?

 

'm not sure as that part is a long way from the CPU itself, it shouldnt be hot but try feeling a little further down (be careful, dont break anything) or get a temperature probe and try it

 

touching the heatsink lower down will not electricute or damage the cpu will it:s

 

dont think so, i'm not sure though so dont hold me to it

 

ok, i will risk it anyway.

 

ok.... i felt the bottom of the heatsink, and it was really cool, the space under the heatsink was pretty hot though, but that seems to be from ram and components near the cpu