oblivion issues

Swansen

The Ninj
when i'm playing the game it freezes up ever minute or couple seconds and i don't know whats going on mabey i need a patch but any ideas, i have tried all different types of video setups even real low settings and nothing changes,
specs
amd64 2.2 dual core
eVGA geforce 7600 gt sli ready
2gb ram
viewsonic lcd extreme series
gigabyte GA-K8N ultra sli
any ideas would be sweet thanks
 
Assuming all your drivers are up to date I'd say, being a fresh game it's just kind of buggy yet. I'm sure a patch will come along real soon.
 
lol assuming would be wrong yeah i don't have up to date patches, just got the computer going the other day, so i probably need video driver patches, thanks for the support though
 
it's a fairly buggy game

i don't see how elder scrolls can do testing when you can't really do everything in the game in under 300 hours
 
actually i like the small glitches, but bugs are kinda annoying,and i can't get anywhere in the game because it pauses every 20 seconds or so, anyways i'll just have to get the video driver update and se what happens
 
well i updated my video driver,as well as windows drivers, and no changes, still the freezing every couple seconds, and i'm the only one with this problem, most peoples pc's just crash,not repeatedly pasuing. Possibly could have something to do with the dual core cpu, i know they made a patch for doom3, yeah most likely, i'll have to wait for a patch bethesda is probably swamped with comlpaintes,
ok but anyways after thinking about it there is no reason for this to be happening now so any ideas would be cool i'm dowm for trying anything, also what are your system specs just so i can have an idea of what working pc's are like,
 
Just click on our my computer tabs like you have there to check them out. Yours are better than most so well done on your rig. I don't think many of us have Oblivion yet. I was waiting to upgrade so it would run half way decent, though after hearing this the 360 version sounds more realistic.
 
From what I read on their forums, the thing is crazily demanding, not performing excellently even on heavy-duty rigs, with also quite a few bugs left in it.
 
ok i think i might have to discontinue this thread because i now know that the problem seems to accur in all of the games i play, mostly not cool, anyways it's now most likely a hardware issue. anyways i'm going to start a new thread
 
This game needs a very good rig, trust me. It needs a really good CPU, this game is very demanding.

I had to get rid of Oblivion because it wouldnt run good on my rig.

Turn your res down, and take the sliders so that they are NEALLY all the way down.

Denic
 
Does anyone know if it's because the visuals really ARE so demanding, or is it just sloppy programming? (or, question reformulated: are there other games which look as good and require much less "power"?)
 
The engine could scale back a little better. HL2 for instance works on a wide variety of computers. When it came out you could max it pretty well with the available hardware yet most people with modest system requirements could get things on medium anyway. Oblivion is definately not like this, it will only be next year that a good chuck of gamers can just pick it up and play without having to do extensive tweaking. The visuals are really demanding and it's using technology that really isn't very mature yet.
 
Hi Wouter, its seems that your problem is bcoz of your amd64 2.2 dual core, most of the games out there are single threaded. Try to tweak your CPU with this:

Option #1 - The AMD Driver

1. Install the AMD Processor driver found here:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP or other driver depending on your OS.

This driver will add the /usepmtimer line to your boot.ini file. This will both fix problems in some games (HL2) and will raise problems in others (WoW). So depending on what games you are playing, you might have to edit your boot.ini to reflect the game you are playing.

2. Add the /usepmtimer switch to your boot.ini file manually
Right Click My Computer
Properties
Advanced Tab
Startup and Recovery -> Settings
To edit the startup options manually, click edit -> Edit

This should bring up a .txt file with your boot.ini file
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0 )partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partiti on(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /bootlogo /usepmtimer

Add the /usepmtimer as noted above and it will do what the driver does for you. If it is already there and you still have problems, you might want to take it out and try again, or try one of the other fixes.

Option #2 - The Microsoft Hotfix

NOTE: This Hotfix is only for Windows XP w/SP2 per the documentation at the link below

Install the hotfix file found here.

If you need to disable the hotfix, edit the registry as noted here (specifically note #7 which details how to deactivate/activate the hotfix):
Computers that are running Windows XP Service Pack 2 and that are equipped with multiple processors that support processor power management features may experience decreased performance

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Curr entControlSet\Control\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.
3. Type Throttle for the new key name.
4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.
6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.
7. In the Value data box, type 0. Make sure that Hexadecimal is selected in the Edit DWORD Value dialog box, and then click OK.
Note You can type 1 in the Value data box to enable the new performance state policy behavior.
8. Quit Registry Editor.
Specifics as to what is being done from the power management side of things can be read at the link above. These are just the changes that need to be made in the registry. Also note that in the DWORD value box, you enter a "0" to disable the power state created by the hotfix and enter a "1" to enable it. For the purposes of fixing the games, enter a "1".

Option #3 - Set the Affinity Manually

Finally, the last and least glorious of the fixes is to manually set the CPU affinity of certain programs. This can be done in several ways.
1. Alt-Tab out of your game, CTRL-ALT-DEL to the Task Manager, Under the Processes tab, right click the .exe file for your game and go to Set Affinity, Uncheck CPU 1.

2. Use a program to launch games
Win2000/WinXP Launcher to load games. (Available here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/Win2000_Launcher_d438.html or http://www.majorgeeks.com/WinLauncherXP_d870.html). This will allow you to set the CPU affinity before loading the game, which is useful for games that don't respond well to Alt-Tabbing.

3. Use an affinity masking tool such as
ImageCFG (Robpol86.com - ImageCFG.exe for instructions on how to use). Backup your .exe before using this program. Imagecfg has a problem with some directories with spaces in them, so its easiest to stick it in the folder with the *.exe file you want to change. Then use the command you need (knowledge of the DOS prompt is a must ):

imagecfg -a 0x1 game.exe for core 1
imagecfg -a 0x2 game.exe for core 2

This will alter your .exe file, so make a backup of it. Especially since future game patches might not work with a patched .exe.

RunFirst - Free Tools - RunFirst - Choose on which processor an application
starts


Affinity Set Command by JakFrost
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.p...0&postcount=431


Alternate Option #4 - Newer video drivers for your graphics card
If you're using an Nvidia video card. Download one of the Forceware 80 series drivers which are dual core optimized. Latest are available here:
Driver Page
Some older drivers may/may not work with some games/benchmarks and dual core processors.

Nvidia Beta drivers have been clearing up some dual core crashing problems and some other games without having to go through the optimizations below.
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_d...tadrive r.html

ATI drivers available here:
https://support.ati.com/ics/support...dge&folderID=27
I would assume dual core support to be forthcoming in future Catalyst releases.

Nvidia Dual Core Driver Optimization
Warning, still testing this, if you have results please post
If you are experiencing problems with the Nvidia dual core driver optimizations, you can turn them off in the registry by using the following steps (or use the older 77.77 drivers). As always, backup your registry before editing.

Originally Posted by Nvidia Forums
1. Go into Regedit and determine the current primary display card by looking in HKey_Local_Machine\Hardware/DeviceMap\Video and note the GUID (global unique indentifier assigned by Windows) for the entry "\device\video0" which is the long string at the end of the entry in brackets { }.

2. Edit HKey_Local_Machine\SYSTEM\Curr entControlSet\Control\Video\{g uid}\0000, where {guid} is the number derived from the above step.

3. Open the "0000" directory and enter a new key called OGL_ThreadControl and give it a value of 2. This will disable multithreading in the driver for all OGL apps.

4. In the same "0000" directory, to disable driver multithreading for all D3D apps, you can enter WTD_EXECMODEL and give a value of 0.

One of the above solutions should fix 98% of your gaming problems with dual core CPU's.

Hi Wouter, its seems that your problem is bcoz of your amd64 2.2 dual core, most of the games out there are single threaded. Try to tweak your CPU with this:

Option #1 - The AMD Driver

1. Install the AMD Processor driver found here:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP or other driver depending on your OS.

This driver will add the /usepmtimer line to your boot.ini file. This will both fix problems in some games (HL2) and will raise problems in others (WoW). So depending on what games you are playing, you might have to edit your boot.ini to reflect the game you are playing.

2. Add the /usepmtimer switch to your boot.ini file manually
Right Click My Computer
Properties
Advanced Tab
Startup and Recovery -> Settings
To edit the startup options manually, click edit -> Edit

This should bring up a .txt file with your boot.ini file
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0 )partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partiti on(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /bootlogo /usepmtimer

Add the /usepmtimer as noted above and it will do what the driver does for you. If it is already there and you still have problems, you might want to take it out and try again, or try one of the other fixes.

Option #2 - The Microsoft Hotfix

NOTE: This Hotfix is only for Windows XP w/SP2 per the documentation at the link below

Install the hotfix file found here.

If you need to disable the hotfix, edit the registry as noted here (specifically note #7 which details how to deactivate/activate the hotfix):
Computers that are running Windows XP Service Pack 2 and that are equipped with multiple processors that support processor power management features may experience decreased performance

1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
2. Right-click HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Curr entControlSet\Control\Session Manager, point to New, and then click Key.
3. Type Throttle for the new key name.
4. Right-click Throttle, point to New, and then click DWORD Value.
5. Type PerfEnablePackageIdle for the value name.
6. Right-click PerfEnablePackageIdle, and then click Modify.
7. In the Value data box, type 0. Make sure that Hexadecimal is selected in the Edit DWORD Value dialog box, and then click OK.
Note You can type 1 in the Value data box to enable the new performance state policy behavior.
8. Quit Registry Editor.
Specifics as to what is being done from the power management side of things can be read at the link above. These are just the changes that need to be made in the registry. Also note that in the DWORD value box, you enter a "0" to disable the power state created by the hotfix and enter a "1" to enable it. For the purposes of fixing the games, enter a "1".

Option #3 - Set the Affinity Manually

Finally, the last and least glorious of the fixes is to manually set the CPU affinity of certain programs. This can be done in several ways.
1. Alt-Tab out of your game, CTRL-ALT-DEL to the Task Manager, Under the Processes tab, right click the .exe file for your game and go to Set Affinity, Uncheck CPU 1.

2. Use a program to launch games
Win2000/WinXP Launcher to load games. (Available here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/Win2000_Launcher_d438.html or http://www.majorgeeks.com/WinLauncherXP_d870.html). This will allow you to set the CPU affinity before loading the game, which is useful for games that don't respond well to Alt-Tabbing.

3. Use an affinity masking tool such as
ImageCFG (Robpol86.com - ImageCFG.exe for instructions on how to use). Backup your .exe before using this program. Imagecfg has a problem with some directories with spaces in them, so its easiest to stick it in the folder with the *.exe file you want to change. Then use the command you need (knowledge of the DOS prompt is a must ):

imagecfg -a 0x1 game.exe for core 1
imagecfg -a 0x2 game.exe for core 2

This will alter your .exe file, so make a backup of it. Especially since future game patches might not work with a patched .exe.

RunFirst - Free Tools - RunFirst - Choose on which processor an application
starts


Affinity Set Command by JakFrost
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.p...0&postcount=431


Alternate Option #4 - Newer video drivers for your graphics card
If you're using an Nvidia video card. Download one of the Forceware 80 series drivers which are dual core optimized. Latest are available here:
Driver Page
Some older drivers may/may not work with some games/benchmarks and dual core processors.

Nvidia Beta drivers have been clearing up some dual core crashing problems and some other games without having to go through the optimizations below.
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_d...tadrive r.html

ATI drivers available here:
https://support.ati.com/ics/support...dge&folderID=27
I would assume dual core support to be forthcoming in future Catalyst releases.

Nvidia Dual Core Driver Optimization
Warning, still testing this, if you have results please post
If you are experiencing problems with the Nvidia dual core driver optimizations, you can turn them off in the registry by using the following steps (or use the older 77.77 drivers). As always, backup your registry before editing.

Originally Posted by Nvidia Forums
1. Go into Regedit and determine the current primary display card by looking in HKey_Local_Machine\Hardware/DeviceMap\Video and note the GUID (global unique indentifier assigned by Windows) for the entry "\device\video0" which is the long string at the end of the entry in brackets { }.

2. Edit HKey_Local_Machine\SYSTEM\Curr entControlSet\Control\Video\{g uid}\0000, where {guid} is the number derived from the above step.

3. Open the "0000" directory and enter a new key called OGL_ThreadControl and give it a value of 2. This will disable multithreading in the driver for all OGL apps.

4. In the same "0000" directory, to disable driver multithreading for all D3D apps, you can enter WTD_EXECMODEL and give a value of 0.

One of the above solutions should fix 98% of your gaming problems with dual core CPU's.
 
ok thoonie your a little confused but thats ok anyways the issue was that my graphics card was defected and it ok now because it took such a long time to figure out eVGA said they would give me a discount on a card so i bought another one plus i sent my faulty card in and i should have a new one back soon, yeah SLI.
Oblivion is the way it is, like said above, the technology isn't comletely there and there are a lot of visuals and things going on all at the same time, ie everyone going to work, kinda, looting, kinda, ect. and on that note i'm running oblivion pretty much maxed out minus a few things. It runs smooth except the load times are a bit longer but that may also be because i have a massive amount of mods, in conclusion wooo
 
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